Rebooted

Total Recall

October 13, 2021 Andak Media Season 1 Episode 1
Rebooted
Total Recall
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Get your ass to Mars!

In this episode, we dive into the sci-fi classic Total Recall starring the Terminator himself: Arnold Schwarzenegger. Set in the distant future, a blue collar worker named Douglas Quaid finds himself embroiled in an inter-planetary rebellion after a visit to Rekall in search of a virtual vacation.

Remade (and relocated?) in 2012, the Colin Ferrell reboot sees Quaid one-upping Jules Verne as he travels through the center of the Earth  with an army of robots to stop a chemistry teacher from blowing up Australia (we're paraphrasing).

As Kurt Russell learned in Escape from New York, predicting the future is never easy, but some folks a better at it than others. It's a battle between omnidirectional elevators and a trip to the Red Planet, but we're weirdly fixated on keyboards.

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Welcome to rebooted a podcast about Hollywood's trend of rebooting every franchise, except back to the future. Each episode, we break down a movie, talk about the differences and drop some trivia on you. I'm Andrew former film major. Now a director of marketing. I'm Mike also a former film major. And now I'm a software engineer. I'm Jessica Film major and creator of this podcast. Is this, is this going to be at what's in front of every everything? Uh, yeah. Oh ok, I'm Jake, like movies. Of course. He says that in my brain. Is immediately I like turtles This week. We're getting our ass to Mars in great Britain, apparently with the Arnie classic, deep impact. what's this movie called? Mike this dying, laughing over there. What's uhh? What's the actual movie total recall. Oh my gosh. This week, we got our asses to Mars and great Britain, apparently with Arnie's classic, total recall. All right, well welcome everyone tonight. We're going to start off a little bit for our first inaugural episode here. We're going to go ahead and, uh, talk a little bit about ourselves, mentioned who we are and, uh, kind of give a little bit of a history of, I guess, film in our lives or, or something along those lines. So my name, as I said in the introduction is Andrew. I am a film major, uh, actually met my wife through the film program at Olivet. And, uh, like all of us here that are film majors, none of us, uh, did anything with our film degree. So that's a very exciting, so, uh, Mike, why don't you give us a little bit of a introduction on your end? Yes. So, uh, in the trend of not doing anything with a film degree, um, I. I have been completely captivated with movies. My whole life went into, you know, studying film largely because of toy story. Uh, I saw that, you know, the year it came out in 1995 and said, that's what I want to do for a living. And I'm a software engineer, so yeah. But I still love movies and I'm, I have very strong opinions about all of them looking forward to those. All right. Hey Jess, how are you doing? I'm doing great. I love films. Uh, I actually went into the, uh, so my film degree because I wanted to be an actress and there wasn't really a, uh, I mean, there was a theater program at school, but there wasn't really a full acting one. I didn't want to go into theater. So I did that and I'm doing neither of those things now, so that's fun, but I do still really enjoy films. I'd go to all the films, if it weren't for. Current world happenings. And the fact that I have two children that are very young and cannot go to theaters because they will cause a ruckus. But, uh, when they get older, I will be taking them all to move all the movies. Wait. So we're not going to cover pop patrol on this podcast. I mean, it's not a remake, so that that's, that's true. We can, if you want, but first we have to watch the entire TV series. Is that what you want, Mike? Is that what you want? I have a six-year-old and a four-year-old So you already watched all of it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And finally, we've got our film, enthusiast and scifi nerd, Jake. I was going to introduce myself as never seeing a movie before, but I guess I can't, since you said I'm a film enthusiastic, but I like movies. So I'm here. That's right. I don't like horror movies and we're doing a horror movie next. I like action movies growing up, I watched chapter 29 of the matrix over and over and over again. Chapter 29 was the chapter on the DVD of the lobby scene in the matrix. And I turned up my bass. I got yelled at, in the middle of the night cause I was watching. And I just watched that over and over again. Cause that was my favorite scene of any movie. I thought there was like a chapter 29 matrix film, like Anna matrix. I know. No. And I was like, wait, what obscure, what obscure matrix movie, just Jack know about that. I've never heard of I memorized Oh, the DVD chapter. I memorized as the chapters of the matrix DVD so I can skip right to where I wanted to watch because I love that movie so much. It was just such a amazing thing to see when it first came out. I legitimately thought there for a minute, you were going to say you memorize that entire scene. And I was like, (sound effects) I mean I did at the time. I mean, I'm not lying. I was middle of the night and blast. It turned up my bass on my, my computer and I blasted, my sister would come around and I'm trying to sleep. So when I find a movie, I like, I, I really get into it every time. And that you would see one of those movies that parodied the matrix at the time. You're like, that's not how that scene went. I will tell you, well, that scene way your doing it wrong! See, I never, I like movies, but I don't get that much into movies. I don't watch spoofs. And I don't watch other things like that. I, I see a few movies. You've never seen Shrek. You telling me, never seen Shrek. Jake. You've never seen Shrek because there's a matrix parity in there. So. Um, I guess I didn't realize that, but that's not from chapter 29. That's from chapter one. Yeah. Although I do have to say, I say, I love that we're, you know, we're here to do a movie podcast and, and like right out of the gate J school. Yeah. I don't really get into movies that much. Yeah. I mean, whatever. I've seen a lot of movies in my life. I've seen a lot of movies in my life and, uh, you know, I haven't dissected them. You know, I've been called a Neanderthal because I liked, uh, battle Los Angeles by my cousin. So yeah. I just like movies. Battle Los Angeles was a fun, movie, like it wasn't, it was never going to win any awards, but who cares? It was fun. Yeah. But apparently it's not high class funds, so you're Neanderthal if you like it, Mike. So that's what I was called by my cousin. All right. Well, speaking of a high class, not movies that will never win awards. Let's talk about total. Recall the movie we're here to talk about tonight. Total Recall did win some awards or at least nominated Jessica Biel was nominated for worst actress at the Razzies. She didn't win, but she was nominated. So there you go. Wait, Jessica Biel, you're telling me that total recall didn't win any rewards, any awards? Well, I was more referring to the remake, which we'll get to in a minute, but I don't know. That's the first one I liked. I liked the, the remake The Original um, total recall had a rotten tomato score of 82% and the remake had a 31%. So that's what critics thought of it. And I, uh, saw that, um, uh, Roger Ebert actually gave it four and a half stars, the original. So that's actually pretty impressive. I will say when I was young, I saw that pretty early on. So I was probably in grade school. Total recall was the movie that got me interested in space and wanted me to go to Mars and get, you know, us as a species to Mars. And I know total recall is not the greatest example of Mars, but dang it, that, that exploration, that excitement of discovery on Mars is it got me. You watched in grade school, a rated R movie It was on TV. So they, you know, they, they cut out. Although the three tits. I'm pretty sure I saw that. Whoa, so where we're just going right after it. Okay. All right. Well, Jess, why don't you ever say real quick, a plot summary for anyone who hasn't seen the movie? Uh, they can know what we're talking about. All right. Douglas Quaid is an ordinary blue collar worker who wants more from life. He goes to recall spelled with a K to get implanted memories of him being a spy, things go wrong and he finds out his whole life was a lie. Now he's on the run from his loved ones and gets help from the literal woman of his dreams. So I, so I watched this like, but I didn't watch this, you know, in grade school, like Jake, I watched this like at two 30 in the morning on scifi channel during like third, like some qu you know, B movie marathon, Totally forgot that I watched the movie until we sat down to watch it again for this podcast. I was like, wait, I've definitely seen this movie. But then I was super confused because I'm reading, I was reading the description going in. I was like, wait, Doug Douglas Quaid, like Dennis Quaid has a brother. That's an actor. Like, oh no, that's the main character. And then like, so I started watching. I was like, yeah, I remember this scene. I remember the scene, but this plot is totally different than what I remember. I don't know the, the, it was so confusing... It was confusing. I couldn't follow the plot in the first movie for some reason. Like I I've, I just got, I got so lost. And I remember that like watching it the first time that watching it again, I was like, I have, I have no idea what's happening. Like what side is he actually on is? So I felt with the remake, like I'm watching this. I'm like, what is the bad. I even after the movie ended, I was like, okay, did I miss what they were actually like, why they were doing this? Why are they wanting to invade the colony? I don't understand. Like, that's what I didn't follow in the remake. Cause it just seemed, there was, there was one off comment in the remake, in the middle of the movie that explained why they were going to the other side to conquer it. And it was basically because robots are cheaper labor and they don't fight back. But it's the whole reason more than robots are cheaper labor. It was that Britain was out of space running out of land. Yeah. So they wanted to level the colony and use it for new land. Yeah. Which seems like it's more difficult than it's worth. But if you're going to remake total recall what? I don't even care, like use a scifi thing that doesn't even make sense. Cause it's a scifi movie, make it so it's like the original and make it. So you're going to like cure the planet. So then you can have all this space, like, why not do that? Like, why not be like, oh, well we have this, this, this thingy. I don't even know what is it, a spray, whatever that, that we can crop dust across the world and, and get rid of all the chemicals and we can live here again. But no, like it just, yeah, it was, it is kind of funny. Cause like you said, it it's like you've got like two movies, like how there's like the original and the remake. They're so very similar in terms of like general like plot points, but so distinctly different in what, like at the same time, like it was super weird. Like there's like direct parallels of like things that happened in the original two things that are happening in the remake, but like wrapped in a completely different story. It was. Weird. And that was, that was the key, right? Like in, in the remake, they w they made sure they included all of the names, right. To Dennis Quaid, the Cohagen and the, you know, Laurie, uh, even, even in the new one, the, um, it's Douglas Quaid, just to be clear not Dennis, um, but I noticed that even that even, uh, his, his dream girlfriend, uh, I guess, was Jessica Al or Biel. Was they called her name was even Molina or whatever it was, you know? I mean, I, the only person, I don't feel like got copied was Michael Ironsides Richter. They made the new Lori like a combination of Lori and Richter, Right! Yeah. She took on a Richter's role, but like, I mean, otherwise it was like every character was there with the same purpose in the story. What taxi driver that betrays them. Oh yeah. You gets Benny wasn't there was he Benny! That's his name- yeah. Yeah. That's true, actually. Your right! Oh, that's a, that's a fun trivia. I have. Do you guys know who the, uh, Johnny cab is modeled and voice? Uh, like I, I know. But I the like his name is totally escaping me and I'm embarrassed by it. It's Robert Picardo I was going to tell him, Oh, that I totally don't know. I do know. I do know. I have like, I, it was, um, uh, I honestly, I, I, I will admit, like, I honestly thought it was modeled after, um, what Andy Griffith. Okay!? You can't see all of our faces in this, cause this is an audio only pod podcast, but we all just gave him like a really weird look. Um, well, I can't see wholesome Andy Griffith voice- ing so for a movie, like. So, yeah. So what I was, what I was saying though, before that weird Andy Griffith moment, um, was that, you know, I felt like they made sure they hit all the character traits and characters, but then they were like the, the real story, the real mystery or what it was, was so ancillary. It didn't really matter. I mean, I was, I was reading about the original script and it was, and it was even different than. How the first movie, and it was Arnie, like th like Arnie was supposed to be in an immortal God from the machine, you know? And like they wrote that out and went with the whole blue sky on Mars thing, which has its own problems because Mars is too small to maintain an atmosphere, but we'll ignore that. And so, like it, realistically, the whole point of the second movie, I think the whole plot was just to have that zero G gravity gun scene in the core. And that was the only reason. And that was the only, yeah. But I mean that, that brain movie did it better, um, with Christopher Nolan, um, and, and Hewlett Davis Smith. Yeah. That's the one. Jorcen gave him levitt? That brain movie. What a description. Yeah. Uh, anyways, they did that scene better. Um, that's my hot take. Uh, I really feel like they, the whole idea of like, we're about to travel to Australia and call it the colony it new and go on the other side of the planet, just so they could have that gravity shifting moment. You know, the one thing I thought, um, with the difference between the two, I feel like the first one, the original was left more to like, was this real? Or was this part of recall? Was this, this dream? Whereas the remake, there's no way it wasn't real. And what happened because they showed too much things going on. Where it wouldn't be part of the dream. Right. You know, that there was full conversations with other character. I mean, there was a little bit of that in the original, but the remake, it was like entire scenes where stuff was going on. That would not be part of a recall dream. And the second one didn't even end with that question, it ended with a let's go rebuild now or enjoy our independence or whatever. Yeah. It is interesting that you guys say that because I was looking up information about the movie and it actually in the, in the remake, the movie actually ends with Quaid noticing that where he got injected, um, at recall, but like little smiley face that was there, wasn't on his arm, which made him realize he was in the recall, but he decided that he was happy with that life and stayed there. I think you're on crack. Yeah. I do not remember that. I don't remember that at all. He, he noticed he didn't have a, he knows Laurie didn't have a bullet hole in her hand, but then it wasn't Lori. Right. But that's also, or not Lena Molina. Yeah. That was, would be a director's original. Intent. He did originally not intended to be. Yeah, he didn't kick it out. So now I will say, though, I am convinced the first one was a dream and I've been convinced of this for years. Um, you know, I think the giveaway is when the Tech blues guys on Mars, that's a new one. And then when the recall employee comes in, he basically gives him the entire third act of the movie. You know, he says, if you kill me, you're going to get the girl and, and, you know, be beat the bad guy and be the hero, everything he literally like lays out the entire third act. And, uh, so in my mind, the first one definitely is a dream. And the second one definitely is not a you're definitely wrong. And the only reason you're wrong is because my childhood was centered around the fact that on Mars, there's a bunch of ice and that we can go there and we can. Terraform of the planet, starting with that. Okay. Well, let me, let me start telling you how wrong you are. Jake, hang on. I got to drop this because this has annoyed me to no end. They said the Martian core was ice like that. I mean. We know it's like depleted iron. Like we know that Jake also, also, also also Mars can, is too small to maintain an atmosphere. So there, they actually, I did a little research on this. There is actually a companion book that went along with this. The guy basically rewrote the story, but expanded even more. And apparently this alien civilization that built that also seeded at all over the place, uh, for a bunch of other low tech, um, civilizations. And it was basically their test to see if they are capable to become part of the. Galactic civilization. And if they basically messed up this test, their star would go supernova. And apparently there was supposed to be, um, news reports at the time that they were detecting a lot more supernovas. Uh, and that was just supposed to be an off comment, just so I understand correctly, nobody can see the confused looks that I know. Andrew and Jess and I are all given Jake right now, just, just so I can understand the test of the test is whether or not, you know, to put your index finger next to your pointer finger and lay it on that little silver bowl. Basically, whether or not you or your middle finger Went ahead and did it, or you blew it up or something along those lines. Now I haven't read the story. I read the synopsis. Now it's like, like, like this. Yeah. Nobody can see what we're doing here. So yeah. So the test is what, and I can do the Spock thing basically. Basically that's a great test. It's almost, that's almost as bad as Stargate where the Ancient arutherian and test was whether or not you could have a, a mirror to the letter I mean comeon I mean, people hated the, the, the novelization of it, but that's what was in the novelization. Was this civilization come first? I mean, based on a story by Philip K Dick short story in 1960. Yeah. We can remember it for you wholesale. That's it? Um, speaking of which, so there was, they were going to make, um, total recall too with Arnie coming back. Um, and then they had a script ready and it was actually with another Philip K Dick short story called minority. Yep. Oh, wait, hold on. Yeah. So it was going to be where the psychic, um, mutans from Mars. We're going to be the ones that we're going to be. The ones that, um, you know, told if people were going to, I told the futures and the crimes in the past. No, in the future. Yeah. But minority report takes place in like very near future. I mean, it would be different for the cause this wasn't like they, they ended up, they ended up when they basically couldn't come to an agreement. The rights to the movie was ultimately sold to another company or another company decided to go another way. And that's where the minority report that we got came from. But originally it was going to be a sequel with the army. No idea. How do I know about this stuff, guys? And you don't I'm going to start just pulling out out of my butt. These are just random facts that are true. You guys don't even get a note cause I'm spitting all these true facts and you guys are all confused, but I'm telling you, right now! Yeah. You're like totally like commandeering Jess's facts. And you guys didn't think I was even going to watch the movie before we started this. Honestly, I was surprised when you, uh, were like, guys, I'm watching it right now. Yeah. We were convinced that you weren't gonna have watched it. Today's episode is sponsored by and dat games. And that games is a small, independent publisher of games, such as art, major wilderness dice landing party, our recent Kickstarter success, stellar empire. Be sure to check out and back.games. That's a N D a k.games. When you visit, be sure to use the coupon code, rebooted podcasts to save 15% off any order, and that games, we have games and they will travel. Looking back to the two movies. Let's talk a bit more about what we liked and disliked about what was changed. Let's start with our favorite things. They copied in our favorite things. They changed. I, this isn't, I don't, I guess I don't like or dislike it, like I'm indifferent to it, but it's like, I feel like they took these movies and said, oh, What is the thing that people love most about the original let's go to Mars. No, no, no. Let's not do that. Okay. How about that? No, no, no, I got it. Three boobs. That's all we got to put in here. I'm like, like I get that people are doing like body modifications or he went, but it's like, but why? Like, it was so unnecessary that also wasn't clear why in the remake she had three boobs because there was no mutans in there. And there was no like real body modifications going on either. It was just, it was just glowing tattoos. I would consider that body modification. It's like when people get the raise tattoos, like where it's, it's a bit of a difference from raised tattoos to, uh, having a third boob. Cause you gotta like move them around to space them outright. You've thought about this. The only reason I've thought about this is because I saw behind the scenes where the woman was talking about what she had to go through to get the three boobs. And it was a ton of work. I saw the behind the scenes. I don't remember if it was from the original or the remake, probably not original from my understanding, the lady who did it and the original was really uncomfortable with it and refuse to do any kind of, uh, pressors or anything for it. So back on, uh, things that we liked about the, uh, original versus the, uh, remake. Um, I, you know, I, I loved the idea of just going to Mars. I mean, I've said it already, but I, I think it just made the story more believable because of where we need to get to, to get to Mars and have a colony that's that size on Mars. You know, the tech that we'll have to invent to get to there. Whereas the remake, I just feel like you're basically a post-apocalyptic world and yet, somehow we still have all this, the most advanced stuff. And this one area was perfectly. Preserved and all the manufacturing to make all these amazing things will still perfectly preserved, but not the whole rest of the world. I don't know. I just, the believability, the suspension of disbelief was easier on the original, I think, than the remake. And I think that's something that just bothered me. The thing is they taught, like, they talked about how there's no space, especially like in the colony. And you see like how they're having to build on top of build on top of, um, build on top to get enough people in there. But like, their apartment was huge compared to like what you would consider a cramped, like New York apartment or somewhere in like Japan or something. Like, it was huge. They were able to do a whole firefight fight scene in it. And like, yeah, it's not like the, like, it's not like, you know, somewhere in Manhattan that you had to spend like a million dollars a month to live there. But like, it also wasn't like you could barely move or anything. Like didn't like. Uh, I, I, um, the, so the thing that I, so one of the things that I liked as, you know, obviously like the remake, you know, it's set in the distant future and the technology at play actually felt futuristic a little bit. Whereas the original it's like, well, here's this, you know, windows 98, like to TV monitor, but we put it in a giant metal box and that makes it future looks like in 1990, what were the advancements that we'd seen. TV projection. It was black and white to color, and there really hadn't been any other advancements. Now let's look at 2012, when the remake happened, we'd seen black and white and we'd seen color, then we'd seen, uh, led. Uh, and so seeing that allows you to think, okay, here's what the future could look like there, but for the original, they hadn't seen what was possible yet, but the, but they were smart enough to know you could have a video conversation, phone call that there would be a TV in the wall. And you could tell it was a tube TV, but it was flush on the wall. Except for the curves, as you couldn't tell that was it to TV. That was clearly a green screen. I understand what you're saying, Jake. And I think that's something that you see a lot of, like, even like in star wars and a lot of scifi, you're like, uh, okay. They're just kind of rapping current technology and like, even, and honestly, even the remake and so many, so many, uh, scifi movies today, it's like the futuristic weapon is like a P 90 or some other like Swedish made gun that looks different from what we're used to in America. You know, it's not even like a real, like, they don't even try to make them look futuristic, but like, you know, movies like 2001, a space Odyssey or even star Trek. Like they, they, they even, they thought up the idea of like using tablets, you know, before that was even a thing, you know? So I, I think there is, if you take the, as a Saifai move. And prop person, here's my judging of Hollywood coming to play. If you, if you try to push the creativity forward and don't just wrap a like rapid gun and an extra piece of metal, you know, I think you, you, you, you really kind of drive, you know, technology and idea and thing like that, you know, so I think they could have done more, but I also know that total recall was, uh, like apparently very close to its budget or over budget. So like they probably didn't have a ton of money to, you know, do other things than just rap metal. And I think, I think that comes into play too to kind of address Mike's concern. Like some Saifai put some money into good props and things like that. Others put it into big name actors and action scenes and things like that. So, yeah. Anytime you see an action heavy movie, you don't get that like really creative props, you know? Cause no one's going to say 2001 space. Odyssey was an action movie. I will say I'm not even leaving. I'm not even being funny. When I say this, I think the most intriguing futuristic technology that I've seen in any movie was that receptionist doing her nails just by tapping on it with yes. And like that. I thought that would be as a kid as well. And ever since I saw that, I'm like, I want that now. I want that. Yeah. And that was, and that was a good thing. And like, like what Andrew was saying this, like, it's not so much necessarily that it was like tube TVs, but it was like, like you pulled this keyboard off of, uh, off of a, uh, PC running windows 95. Like you can do simple things like. Sit like the simplest of things, like changing the color of a key or like changing the layout of the keys on the keyboard can go a long way to making it feel different and unfamiliar. Like it just like a lot, like the future tech of the original just felt lazy to me. Like, I think you're nitpicking much there, Mike, where, I mean, that's, that's the whole thing of like the star Trek, developing yellow cars, right? It's that it's a whole different operating system that really was just cut glass, I think, you know, and they're like, Hey, you, you whack at a panel and it looks like you're doing something futuristic. You know, I think star Trek here start, when did, uh, original star Trek take place as what? The 24th, 25th century, they're looking at like a hundred years from. For total recall, not 300, 400, 500 years from now. So people are used to star Trek because that's what they had seen, but that was like 400 years, 500 years from now. How do we get from where we are right now to there? And this was like total. I have an iPad right here, Jen. I know. But look at before 1990, what was the advancement in technology and even star Trek when they were talking about 400 years from now, we've already got that in our iPad and stuff. Technology 1990, like you went from pong in the seventies to a second Genesis, like don't tell me there wasn't technological advancement, not the nineties, like before 98 released in 19. So, yeah, 88, 89. So I think to give it crap on its future tech, when it wasn't supposed to be that far in the future, when star Trek is saying 400 years from now, that's when you're going to have these view screens, they're saying in a hundred years, the future, I mean, think about like, think about night, think about 1800 and 1900. Like the technological advancements have happened or 1900 to 2000. Like there's a massive, massive leaps in technology. Yes, but in 1990, could you imagine having a, a phone like we have now an iPhone? No. Why not? Somebody must've imagined it because they believed, if you tell them, if you tell me in 1990, that in 30 years you would have that type of. You might've said, okay, you might have something similar, but not to the capabilities that we have. And yes, somebody did imagine it. But how long ago did they imagine it? They imagined it 10 years ago. 12 years ago, Mike, nobody not. Nobody is asking for the technology prediction of the future to be a hundred percent accurate because there's a painting of the memoir and you're, you're knocking the original cause it has curved screen. I'm knocking the original because it has curved screens. I'm knocking the original because it's like, because it feels like they didn't try to make the technology look future. I don't, on Mars where everything is already beat the crap up because it's basically the wild west. It's not, it's not the future tech, but it's not, it's still future earth. It's the wild west here. As the movie said, none of us know paired to civilized areas. What year is the movie set in? What year? Sixties or something like that? What? The 2060s. Okay. And it was released in 1990. That's the future? 84. That's the future? 84. That's the future. It's almost a century later. Yeah. It's almost a century later. Yeah. So like, I mean, technology is technology is going to advance. Like you don't have, it is, I don't even know what side you guys are. Even on. I don't even know what you're talking about, but the old movie Mike's on new look at the projection of video from its earliest conception. To 1990, there've been three iterations. There was the projector, the black and white tube and the color tube. And you're knocking them because they still had two TVs, even though they had flat screens and built-in stuff and stuff like that. And they had a fricking huge x-ray machine. That was x-raying people as they're walking. I mean, how freaking cool was that? I mean that's TSA. TSA. No, it's. It's, I'm not knocking the tube. I mean, it's like knocking, it's knocking, like knocking any other movie. I mean, total recall two or the remake. Did they have an x-ray machine? I mean, that was like introduced in 2002, after nine 11, they had extra machines and were, now you can see it, but they had like, look at that in 1990, they predicted. Right. But here's the, here's the distinction, right? The original use have like, they're on a, they're on a computer. That's supposed to be like a hundred years in the future of like computers in the 1990s. And there's. Same exact the same exact like bland gray keys, right. For a keyboard. Oh my gosh. They didn't have the foresight to know that there wasn't going to be keyboards. I have a keyboard right here. It's 30 years later. It's the same fucking keyboard they're using. But again, it's like a technology like technology and offense technology advances like machinery, like physical, like tech hardware changes. It evolves. They made no attempt to make it feel like it evolved. Whereas in the, in the remake, you want to talk about the remake they had omni-directional elevators. That's an innovation, even if that doesn't come to fruition, it like it feels and the tech Arnie having that woman's head on his head. Cause that that was abandoned. Yeah, no kidding. 30 years later, I'm using the same keyboard that I could have been using back then. It's just, it's a USB instead of a, whatever the plug was. If you were to put your 30 years later, it's not, if you were to put your keyboard that you're using today and next week, you brother, you were using in the nineties. So it looks different. Except that those mechanical keyboards became popular again with same like LPs have as well. So yeah, I mean, you're, you're knocking the movie over keyboards. I'm sorry, but I just can't let you knock the movie over keyboards. It's all I'm going to chime in and say I'm in any scifi from the eighties and nineties, I'm more offended by future fashion than future technology. Like those when she got home and she was in that like a workout outfit, I'm like, this is the most eighties outfit ever. This is like something that I've seen on a star Trek. They, they, they think that future workout a tire is it's like the exact same thing as the eighties, except more neat. You know, if in 24 you're wearing that, Jess I'll remind you of this conversation. All right. Well, let's move on. Cause I, I feel like that that could be a whole other episode of YouTube, just bigger about technology. And can I pick her up metal snapping also he's wrong, but whatever. Okay. Anyway, um, so I think that, I feel like, and I'm seeing this completely straight, like this is not joke. I feel like they could have made the remake better by doing something more like the expanse. I feel like the expanse could have been a good total recall reboot. You have the tension, like there's the, you know, there's people that do want to go from earth to Mars and, you know, People, like, why would you want to do that? They're just full of backwater, blah blahs, or the belts with the belters. And it's like, that's something like they could've gone expanse. Wasn't a show yet then right in 2012. But like you couldn't like, that's something with the nitty gritty space that you could have, something like that could have been done. I think better where they could have gone to Mars still and still had the, um, Well, I mean, ultimately that's the hangup, right? Like the, the, the second, the, the remake completely changing the background story really makes the movies. It's, it's really a weird choice and it really makes the movies a lot different despite being the same. And, um, I guess that makes it a little difficult to be like, this one's better. This one's better, or this is better. This is better. I mean, obviously the visual effects are way better than the newer movie, because it had a larger budget and it we've come a long way with visual effects, but why did they make the story all on earth? Like, what was the point of the tunnel through the earth? I still don't get that, you know, it was that built pre or post apocalypse again, though where where's the, the, the manufacturing base to be able to do it. And you've seen like that. Yeah. And, and why did they go from Britain to Australia? If it was pre chemical. Why would they do that? If it was post chemical, how do they have the tech to do that, but not make Australia better? I know about Australia. Yeah. Honestly, again, it's, it's that you, you really have to like ask yourself why, why is it that made them say we want to have this plot, this underlying plot, because it had to been either someone in the writing staff was really into that idea. Maybe it was a different movie. They glued into this one or they, like I said, they've really wrote it for just some scenes. They were like, were really cool to see the Sandy graph. So it was the original, short story that it's based on did, was that, did that involve mark? So it's based on the short story. Uh, we can remember it for you. Wholesale is actually about a guy named Douglas quail. Quaid, uh, and in his, about he dreams about going to Mars. So the short story is about going to Mars. So get your ass to Mars, which I wasn't like we saw me and Andrew saw this in theaters. When it came out the remake, I was so disappointed that he didn't go to Mars. I was waiting for it like, and when I realized that they were going to go to Mars, I was so disappointed. Yeah, I, I think rewatching rewatch hand, I enjoyed the remake a lot more, uh, from a purely science fiction standpoint, but yeah, definitely the disappointment of no Mars and again, the confusion of the inner planet or intercore transport the drop. I will never understand that it was such a weird shift Australia and in Britain, but yet everybody has an American accent. Like Colin Farrell is Irish. Kate Beckinsale and, uh, bill Nye or British, and I know a little bit, eventually Kate Beckinsale has her British accent, but why does she even need her English accent? The first place? He didn't know who she was before that, like, what was the point was like, oh, well, if I speak in a British accent, that was a pretty tight scene though. Where all of a sudden she breaks out her accent, like you're screwed, like in stride, actually. That was, yeah, that was, that was pretty cool. Like just all of a sudden it's like, wait, you're suddenly like I'm watching underworld now what what's happening. Yeah. That was actually like, honestly what you started. Like, I'm really bad with like actor and actress like names. And it was like when she started speaking in a British accent that I went, holy shit, she's an underworld. I will say that actually caught my eye. Um, talking about, you know, American accents that. In Australia, there were a lot of, uh, people of Asian descent, which was like, okay, so that's one of the only good places. So everybody from that area was coming to Australia. So that was one thing that caught my eye was like, okay, well, they're keeping consistent here. That's pretty cool. Let me say. Um, back on the, the, the drop though, Andrew, correct me if I'm wrong. So it was going the globe and it was cutting across it, not through the core. It was actually like going past. Gravity pulls towards the center. Right? Right. So as it's going at an angle, shouldn't the gravity have been shifting from under their feet to slowly getting more towards their back. Yeah. So that was something that I, I think I wrote in my notes or I mentioned adjust, I don't remember, but I really started to having some troubles with the drop. Uh it's it's cutting through molten, you know, wasn't, it was right on the edge of the Morton and then no, it would have gone through the molten core. You wouldn't hit the iron core of the planet. It voided the iron core, but it definitely cut through, I mean, well, it's hard to tell it wasn't a great graphical representation, but either way, I still don't believe the gravity should have reversed the way it did, because it's not like, it's not like people on the bottom of the planet are. Being sucked up words. And the people on the top of lettering sucked downwards. I mean, I feel like this is a kindergarten level of understanding gravity, but like at that same time though, I'm not an expert on gravity. So, but there would have been, I know friction as it was going down, unless it's going straight down, which is straight towards the court and it was not going straight to the core. So therefore it wasn't a drop. It was a, it should have been a glide along a rail or something along those lines, but it wasn't. So that was, that was one thing that bothered me and well, the automatic switch of gravity, if there was a switch of gravity, it wouldn't be like you have gravity. And then all of a sudden you don't have gravity. And then all of a sudden you do have gravity. Again, it would be very gradual, but actually if you're falling, you wouldn't have gravity because you're falling at the speed of gravity. So it should have been no gravity the entire way. Like when the plane, like you take a plane up and it falls at the speed of, uh, terminal velocity. That's where you get like the no gravity, you fly around plane. That's what they were mimicking because they. Uh, gravity fall. So there shouldn't have been gravity. Well, this is also is the thing I have an issue with because they're not, they're not literally not dropping right in the movie, no drop. And they caught a drop, but the half a using their magnetic levitation system that we see that they have to move it because you CA you can't, he wouldn't just drop it like that. And it wouldn't, it wouldn't drop the way. Okay, so let's say you drop, right? And by the time you got to the core, it's not like it's going to Slingshot you back up the other way. Right. You would need, you would need an equal amount of distance. Right? So it doesn't doesn't work that way. Even if you went straight to the core, I still don't think it would work that way. And I still don't think that's possible because there's molten core or the molten cross. And then there's the iron core, but I'm not a scientist. I'm a film major. Considering the fact that the first we've ever dug down is it doesn't even reach the depth of the Mariana trench that we've barely dug down. And they expect me to believe that we've dug all the way through the. I used to think I can dig through the planet to China. When I was a kid digging in my sandbox, I quickly learned that that's him. You're like shut us out on the other side of where I am very hyper critical of their technology right now, drinking. Uh, I mean, you're talking about future tech. I'm just being realistic on the future tech I'm taking what we know. Society right now. And I'm projecting it forward just like they did in 1990, but I still don't understand the, I still don't understand the purpose of the drop because they can fly through the radiated zone. Clearly they flew through the radio, that zone, but it's 30 minutes or whatever the length of the drop is that drop is like seven minutes or so again, it's suspension of disbelief. It's faster. It doesn't cut that much time off. My belief has been suspended. I just, I guess, thought of something though, too. So in the original, they had to give him, they had to like implant him to go undercover before he even went there because the psychic psychics would figure out that he was faking it. Why did he have to do that in the remake? He wasn't. Well in the remake, he was actually a trader. And so then he got used. Yeah, it was, um, it was, it was slightly different where like the original, it was his plan to go wonder covers so that he could get caught and go through this whole trader thing. Whereas in the second one, he actually betrayed co Hagen, but co Hagen had like, uh, had like a fail safe basically in place. Like it was the, the, the original, it was Hauser was part of the scheme. Whereas in the remake Houser was a victim of the scheme. Well, because apparently also in the director's cut for the remake, even Hawke plays the character, like in a short scene where he's Hauser before he becomes Quaid. And that he actually goes through extensive, uh, plastic surgery to get the new face too. So it's like, it feels like the director's cut completely contradicts everything of the movie that was released. Well, in, in the start of the movie, they do have a news article where they're like known trader terrorist Houser. And like, obviously people would know the student's face then. And he just kinda like goes to work every day. And nobody's like, Hey, aren't you? That guy that was on the news for being a very famous trader. See, Jess's saying they had, they did like extensive whatever. I swear. That's the movie I saw. Cause when I started watching the remake, I was like, wait, I thought there was something about him changing his face and that's why nobody knew what it wasn't. He, why he didn't know who he was. Maybe you saw the director's cut, but then how would, uh, uh, just uh, something bill? No, that it was him. If she didn't recognize the space because she would have only known his face from after the reconstruction. Right? Well, no, she cause she knew him, his house. She knew him as Hauser. So she would never have enough. Fuck. If I know, man, a second movie was, it was so confusing honestly also after they get captured, when they get captured with the resistance, kind of got boring. After that, I thought like there was a little bit of tension when they went into the room with all the robots they were in stasis. That was like a little tension, but like, I feel like nothing even happened with. Like it was just more, yeah, I will say you are right there. Like they, like, they play this tension up of like, they go into that room in the, in the fall car and there's all the, the robe, all the, like the robot century's in there. And they're all in stasis. And like every like movie bone in your body is saying, these guys are going to wake up and they don't. And it's like, You're waiting for this payoff that never comes. It's like, you're waiting for that Alan to, to shift. Yeah. No, but like, but it's true. It's like, like there's. Yeah. It, and I I've like there's this Mo like, um, yeah. It's like, it like predictable isn't necessarily bad when you're telling a story. It's like, there's, there's like, sometimes you want those plot twists of like, not knowing what's coming, but sometimes you want that like moment of like, like that fist pump, like yeah. I knew that was gonna happen. Your weight. I knew it, like, there's something exciting about that. And like, you have this tension of like, the robots are gonna are going to wake up and then they don't. You're like, well, what the hell? How did Laurie survive? All those explosions? And then somehow that one's confusing. Like it was, it made no sense. She was in the middle of the thing. Like she shouldn't have been able to survive that how'd she get his hollow necklace, man. She she'd been carrying that since he dropped it. And he programmed it with his girlfriend's face. I don't know. I think one of the things that made the remakes so different than the first one is that the first one, there was a mystery going on throughout the entire movie, right up until the end of who is Douglas Quaid, you know, is he Dennis Quinn's brother? Is he Hauser? Is he not? Is he good? Is he bad up until the moment where he even put his hand in the alien? Because what is this alien thing with the remake? I mean, basically. Halfway through my knife and halfway through it just becomes an action movie. There's no mystery about it anymore. It's not about who he is or anything. And you, all of a sudden, it goes from even say from the rebels point, you know, where there, the capture them on is just straight up. Action. There's no mystery anymore. There's nothing. There's nothing driving it. I wrote in my notes with the original is a scifi movie. The remake is an action movie. Yeah. I would agree. That's I that's definitely true. I'll definitely give you that. Yeah. Yeah. That is absolutely true. I like the action movie. I, I think that the remake is it, like, I feel like I can get behind a super bad movie. If it's fun. I can't get behind a super bad movie. If it's boring. Now that said this was super bad, but it just, it was too boring for my taste. It didn't, it didn't have enough action to keep it going. Oh, oh, oh. So that car chase scene where they're on the magnetic on the magnetic road and they're the magnets. How did the police not have a system where they can lock down a car on the magnetic road when they're chasing that we're nearing the end, but I'm going to go back to an offhand comment that Andrew said about, uh, the original having cyber truck in it. That was the one thing I, when watching, um, the original total recall, I saw those metal cars with the flat ends and whatnot. And I was like, that's totally the cyber truck. Like that is exactly what Tesla's coming out with. And a car forum. I say that's fricking crazy, like, talk about seeing the future, Mike right there. They knew, or maybe, maybe Tesla saw that movie and was like, that's a good Martian car. And the cyber truck would be a good car to take to Mars when we go. Yeah. It's probably the other, yeah, it's probably that way. It's probably Elon Musk, like total recall and said, we're going to make that car and take it to Mars. I tell you the car Mars on that note, we should move on to, uh, if you guys were to remake this a movie today, what. You do? I think I there's there's aspects of there's aspects of both that I would take. Like, I, I mean, like I love scifi. Like I think the Mo the Mars thing is cool. And as soon as you fast, as soon as you bring another planet into the mix, like it, like, it definitely helps, like, make it like futuristic and new and exciting. But I also think like some of the, like, um, there was something about the story line and how they like progressed through it in the remake that felt easier to follow and easier to digest. Like the overall, the overall plot of the second movie felt more. Coherent to me when the first one, like, like there were some things that were weird and out of an, and like felt out of place. Like they never really explained to like, why is the fall necessary and things like that night. And I agree with that, but the general, like plot points from start to finish were easier. I felt to follow in the remake when they were in the original, the original, I was confused at the end. Like what the hell? Um, I would definitely, like I said earlier, kind of do the expanse where, you know, it's, you know, still have, you know, have Quaid go to Mars, but, you know, make it just a us versus them thing. Cause I mean, I feel like that wasn't really in the original, that was more of a remake thing, but it was all humans, but I mean, like it doesn't even need to be getting air onto Mars, making it blue skies on Mars. You know, have it be something I was like, I don't know. I don't even know, but it's just something that it needs to take place on Mars. You got to get your ass to Mars. That's like the thing you need to do. That's what total recall is it's Mars, not Australia and which, I don't know why it was still British. And then the other one was the colony. Like the whole thing is, I don't know. It felt like that was trying to make it. Um, Saifai even though it already exists, I don't know. Uh, you know, I will say some things I liked though I would do, if I was to make it, I would, I would probably keep Collin Cheryl as, as the guy. Um, instead of RNA, I liked, I liked the idea of just, I'm not as cut dude being the secret agent. Um, I also think there was, uh, the, you know, co hanging in the original movie seemed a little too mustache twirly. You know, I'm going to steal all the money from the building projects and make cheap glass that lets people turn into Newtons. So it just felt very mustache twirly. So like the. I don't know that's, I mean, that's where I would like it we'll get it it's to me, it felt like in the eighties or early nineties action movie and some of that too, like, and the whole Benny betrayal thing was kinda, you know, you saw coming from a mile off. Um, and I, I mentioned that Jess, too, that Benny said he wished he had three hands and he actually did have three hands. So, uh, I personally am a purist with the original, if you couldn't tell I, when I heard there was a remake coming, I was so excited because it's one of the movies that I've always wanted to see a remake. I want them to see going to Mars. I wanted to see, um, an updated visualization of Mars, more of what we know about Mars, um, with our idea of what future tech is now. Uh, because we have seen so much more. And just be able to, I dunno, I just, I wanted more closer in line with that and I liked the mustache twirling bad guy. I don't know. I think the, the nineties movie, bad guy tropes. Yeah, it's cliche, but we don't have that anymore. And I feel like that is kind of like a, you maybe I'll have to make him so mustache twirling, but the idea that there's this corporation trying to save money. So they basically, the initial, uh, domes they make are super cheap, like the play of the game, surviving Mars, and I'm trying to save money. So I'm going to show you how to make these initial domes really crappy. And they're, they're going to be my workers to set up the rest for all these high paying customers kind of thing like that. That's the kind of, um, thing I, I could envision having. Especially when you're talking about corporations, because corporations aren't necessarily looking out for the people that are under them, that they're there to protect because there's no recourse for them to actually look out for. Other than that I'm dying and not having the money coming anymore, but they're already living under there. So you already got all their money now don't get me wrong. Ah, I love me a good corrupt corporation. Saifai story. I mean, um, I'm wailing Yutani through and through. Uh, but, but this co co Hagen wasn't a corporation. It was just the administrator. Do you? Yeah. Yeah. So I think take more of the style of the villain that we have today. So they're not so mustache twirly as you put it and then cast John Siena as is, uh, uh, Douglas Quaid. Oh my gosh. I can totally see that. I know. I just thought of it as we were talking. I was like, who wouldn't be good, John Sr. John Siena would be John Siena would make a great replacement for Arnold with bridge the gap between campy and serious and make it somewhere in between that, the rocks to literate to fill that role. Yeah. Well the other one, I just thought it would be VIN diesel, but, but that said, I actually, one of the things I thought about watching Arnold in this movie, he, he didn't have as much of his Austrian accent in it. Um, or his, his tone of voice normally has he talked more like a normal guy in it. He was really passionate about this. He was gunning for that role. So he really wanted it. Yeah. So that, that, that's my thoughts. Which, which version did you guys like better? I definitely liked the original better. The remake is just to buy the book action and just kind of boring and give the remake, uh, one mutant child out of five and be original oh five new children. Of course. I know. I said I liked, I liked the rebate better all around thought it was more fun. I'm going to go. Uh, let's see. Now I dunno. So I really enjoyed. I really did enjoy the original. I'd probably give a four for going out of five. If we have to, uh, I give it probably four Barack Obama bills. I don't know. I did like that. That was, yeah, it did make me laugh, but I will say, you know, I think the remake, other than some really kinda questionable plot things, I think I'd give it a good three year. Barack Obama bills on a five or Mars pink currency. I didn't catch who his face was on those, but there were pink, which was pretty title that was just the dollar bills, dyed pink. That's all. I want to actually open a bag with one of those die things in it. And I will say just real quick, apparently on earth in the original. The only soft drink that you see advertised as Coke and on Marcy only soft drink, UC advertises Pepsi. I did not notice that. That's funny. This was a fun first episode. 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